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I'M RUNNING DESPERATE CONCERNING MY HUSBANDS ULCERATED FOOT (2YRS) HE IS A DIABETIC WITH RECENT TRIPLE BYPASS AND AMPUTATED TOE ON THE OTHER FOOT. I WOULD LIKE ANY INFO AND INSTRUCTIONS REGARDING THE USE OF HYALOFILL, HIS ULCER ON THE BOTTOM OF HIS FOOT IS ABOUIT 5CM AROUND AND IS NOW SHOWING BEIGE STRINGY MATTER >>> WHICH I,M NOT SURE IF THAT IS A GOOD THING OR NOT. I WAS USING REGRANEX BUT DO TO HIS SHOES IT STARTED WORKING THEN HE RAN INTO MORE PROBLEMS. I HAVE JUST RECENTLY ORDERED CUSTOM MOLDED SHOES , AND A DIABETIC BOOT HOWEVER HE DOES,NT CARE TO WEAR IT ANY INFO I WOULD BE THRILLED TO HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO CARE TO RESPOND TY,DIANNE Archives messages can't be replied to.
Hi,

My dad has got an ulcer half way between his knee & ankle. He has bad circulation as he had a blood clot 5 years ago, we are just wondering if you can recommend any web sites or any treatments which will help reduce the size of the ulcer. It is about the 5cent piece size. It gets a crusty scab and causes a lot of pain.

Your help will be much appreciated

Many thanks
Jessica
 
I am a community nurse, I have a client with venous ulcer, over-granulation is present recently. I would like to know how to manage the over-granulation. Is hydrocolloid works?
Flora
 
Hello,
I am not sure if this the correct name. I am a wound nurse at the naval medical center in San Diego. A plastic surgeon insists that this solution
will heal a wound. Are you aware of a solution by this name? Do you know where I could look for more information? Your assistance in this matter
would be appreciated. Dawn, CWOCN
 
 
I have found your website very helpful in developing an education program for nurses working at the large aged care facility where I work in Sydney. I am interested in innovative education tools/techniques that enhances nurses understanding of how to prevent pressure ulcer development. Do you have any resources/contacts?

Thank you
 
Congratulations to Thomas Sharon, R.N. on the publication of his new book. Thomas is a long time viewer and active participant on the Wound Care Information Network.

PRACTICAL LIFE-SAVING ADVICE ON AVOIDING
HOSPITAL MISTAKES FROM A REGISTERED NURSE OF 27 YEARS



PROTECT YOURSELF IN THE HOSPITAL

Insider Tips for Avoiding Hospital Mistakes for Yourself or Someone You Love

By Thomas A. Sharon, R.N., M.P.H.


“Thomas A. Sharon can speak with authority on the subject... Sharon does not oversell his case. He offers practical examples and valuable insights on the things that can go wrong in the ER, on a ward, in the ICU or with the business office. His system for rating hospitals, for example, urges consumers to take into account things like fiscal stability, labor relations and the smell of the place...” Gregory Mott, Washington Post, October 21, 2003



Protect Yourself in the Hospital

Insider Tips for Avoiding Hospital Mistakes for Yourself or Someone You Love

Author: Thomas A. Sharon, R.N., M.P.H.
ISBN: 0071417842
Format: Softcover, 224 pages.
Copyright: 2004
$12.95 US
Contemporary Books/McGraw-Hill

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We are having a discussion about decubitus ulcers?


Can a decubitus with slough be staged?
Some think yes a 3 or 4,,,,,others say no because you can't see the wound bed.
Pam

Pam,
I have done research and presented on this topic. According to the NPUAP and the AHCPR, pressure ulcers cannot be staged until all of the necrotic tissue is debrided away. This can be found in the Clinical Practice Guidelines for the Treatment of Pressure Ulcers put out by the US Dept of Health and Human Services. I hope that helps. Jen

Jennifer Anne Cavallaro, PT

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If a wound cannot be seen due to slough, we call it an "unstageable" until the wound bed is clearly visible and an appropriate determination can be made.

Gerry Martin, LPN

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YES, USUALLY, IF A WOUND HAS SLOUGH, YOU WOULD STAGE IT AT LEAST A 3. IF THE WOUND HAD ESCHAR, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STAGE IT UNTIL ESCHAR IS DEBRIDED BECAUSE YOU CANNOT EVALUATE THE WOUND BED.


THERESA RN.

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Think of it like this--how can you tell what is inside a box without taking off the lid? How can you stage a pressure ulcer without removing the necrotic tissue? You may have an idea of the stage of the wound, but without being able to visualize the wound base, you have no idea. There have been sometimes that I have been surprised at the actual stage of the wound after debridement.

Nancy B. RN, CWCN

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Pam,

If you can't see the wound base, you can't stage it. For the definitive source, check with the NPUAP, www.npuap.org, who are
the authors of the current staging system.

Renee C, MSPT, MPH, CWS

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If the wound bed is completely covered with slough then you cannot stage the wound. However if only a portion of the bed is covered with slough and you feel that an adequate portion of the bed is exposed to make a staging assessment do so.

D. La Franier, L.P.N.
Wound Team member
Salt Lake City, Ut.

Hi,

My name is Amba, a student of physiotherapy studying in India.

As per my course requirements, I am to submit a project work on the topic of my choice. The topic I have selected is "Recent advances in wound care with electrotherapy". I would like to know what are the various electortherapy modalities available in the treatment of wounds and also would be greatful if someone could give me links to websites carrying relevant subject material. I have searched for HVPGS, but haven't found any describing the exact procedure of treatment.

Thank you,

Amba.
The most commonly used e-stim type is HVPC. But, now the thinking is that the key thing is the total dose, no matter what form it takes. For searches, try the names Kloth or McCullough. They are the leading researcher in this field. Go to www.pubmed.gov to search the literature.
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Renee C., MSPT, MPH, CWS
My doctor says I would be a candidate for Dermagraft, however, my insurance company will not cover the cost as I am not a diabetic and they say it is still in testing stage. I have two trauma ulcers, one on each leg, that will not heal. Has anyone used Dermagraft and has it worked to close this type of wound.

Gary
Dear Gary:

First you need to find out the reason why your wounds are not healing. If it is an arterial blockage, you need the services of a vascular surgeon. If it is some form of peripheral vascular disease, the question of whether or not you have diabetes is moot. Once you have done this you can ask your doctor to write a letter of medical necessity explaining why Dermagraft should work with your condition.

Health insurance companies always deny payment for new types of treatments calling them "experimental". You need to contact your state's Insurance Department to find out how to file an appeal to overturn the denial. These appeals are usually successful when there is a clear and concise letter from the treating physician explaining why the denied treatment should be covered. Good Luck

Thomas A. Sharon, R.N., M.P.H.
Could you please help settle a debate? Is tincture of iodine better for wound care than triple antibiotic cream?

Thank you

Philip
Iodine in that form is cytotoxic to healthy cells in addition to the bacteria. Therefore, the antibiotic ointment is better since it does not damage the healthy tissue. However, there are so many other things available to help with wound healing, even for infection management, such as silver dressings and cadexomer
iodine (a special form that doesn't damage healthy tissue).

Renee C., MSPT, MPH, CWS

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I don't mind using an anti-infective such as Betadine when an acute injury has occurred and the wound is dirty, but after the initial cleansing I would use moist wound care such as wound gel and use the antibiotic cream for infected wounds. No sense developing drug resistant bacteria. We have enough of a problem with that as it is.

Nancy B., RN, CWCN

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No, iodine isn't better. It is cytotoxic. Remeber the old phrase...never put anything in a wound that you wouldn't put in your eye.

Gerry Martin, LPN

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Iodine is no longer recommended for wound care because the iodine dries out
the area and does not encourage healing.

Edna Hawkes RN

Has anyone had any experience with a product called CircAide T-3 boot and sleeve for compression of LE venous insuffiency. Does this product increase patient compliance? Does it seem to be an effective alternative to multilayer compression wraps to remove edema? I have a patient who is currently having a difficult time transferring from multilayer compression wraps (Profore) that I put on to being independent with her compression garments. Each time we get set to go Independent, something seems to happen where she is unable to get her compression stockings on at home...more edema...more wounds...back to Profore. Is the CircAide boot and stocking a viable transition alternative?
Thank You
Carl, PT
The CircAid can be helpful if the person has ankle movement, and moves their foot. If not, it is not very compressive. It is
often easier to don than stockings. Have you tried the various donning systems (slippees or frames) to help with the stockings?

Renee C., MSPT, MPH, CWS

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Dear Carl:

It sounds to me like you and your patient are stuck in a revolving door. Perhaps it is time to send the patient back to the attending physician for a whole new treatment plan. I recommend checking out The Diapulse Wound Treatment System at www.diapulse.com
The edema would be resolved and there would be no need for occlusive bandaging.

Thomas A. Sharon, R.N., M.P.H.

I was wondering, what are some of the alginate dressings or other dressings that are absorbable if left in the wound bed (most likely accidently)?
Someone told me that all alginates work this way, but I don't believe them.
Chris
Fibricol by J & J is a collagen dressing. I think it absorbs a little bit of drainage, but it is absorbed. Alginates have to be flushed or rinsed off; they are not absorbed.

Nancy B. RN, CWCN
Hi,
I'm a PT that has been practicing wound care at a major hospital for 4 years. I had a question about iodoform packing strips. I know certain levels of iodine are indescriminately cytotoxic. Doctors in the hospital always seem to order iodoform packing strips (which I most often am able to change to a more healing-friendly dressing). But if you were to use this dressing,
is the level of iodine in these gauze dressings still cytotoxic to all tissues?? Is there any research that shows what levels of iodine would be "appropriate" (I use this word very loosely) ?
Thanks for your time.
Chris, PT
I'll sometimes use cytotoxic materials for a few days to take down the bioburden, to allow healing to begin. Then, I'll stop, and go to something else. Look at the MSDS for Iodoform. It's scary.

Renee C., MSPT, MPH, CWS

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There is no problem with iodosorb packing depending on the wound bed/ cavity. Cytotoxicity is a non issue.

the wound is likely there from trauma pressure or pvd, not from iodine. That being said straight betadine is fine for a short time period to dry a gooey infected wound, but you can tell by wound appearance when to switch to something else.
Rick DPM

I have a long-term bed the patient, the buttocks and the left hip have a pressure sore, NaCl wet packing for 4 months, because the wound heals slowly, changes by the seaweed rubber surgical dressing, but healed is still slow, asked, what method I possibly did use to improve it? (Has picture)

Taiwan

First of all you might need to address nutritional needs for healing. Increased protein, Vitamin E & C and Zinc Sulfate. Because it takes 3 days for new skin cells to form and adhere them selves you might consider converting to a dressing that is changed less frequently . I would suggest using a hydrogel with fibrin or collagen, covered by a hydrogel wafer that you change every 72 hours. This provide the optimal environment for healing with moisture and the essentials for cell generation and adherence. Good Luck…….

Jan, LPN Wound care Coordinator

Hi,

I am interested in finding out about any type of exercises presecribed for people with vascular insufficiency. I have two diagramed exercise protocol from dow hickman(simple exercises to improve circulation) and Lower extremity exercises for people w/ diabetees from Novo Nordisk Daibetees Care.

bindhu t.a.
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