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Can you help me?
My dad went through a treatment for cancer of the lips. It consisted of a 30 day regimine of Efudex. Basically this presented a chemical burn of the outer lips. It has been 4 months after treatment and the skin has not returned to protect the lips. Small pus producing cells keep the lips raw, thus he cannot eat solids and is in much discomfort. His doc says it will take time, any suggestions to help this condition?
Tim Stevens
Hi

This sounds very painful and certainly uncomfortable. I am not familiar with the drug you mention, however, I would like to offer some info on the nutritional end of things.
Is he on vitamin C and zinc? This will provide some increased nutritional base for healing.
Second, have you tried aloe vera? I have found this to be a very good healing and cooling skin treatment that has no side effects. Certainly it is not a cancer drug and will do nothing in that area but it can help soothe, cool, and heal the skin. I would try coating his lips with aloe vera before eating and keep everything eaten cool. Cool soups, nothing spicy or tart, cool drinks, and cool health shakes. You might have already tried some of this.

Good luck
Barbara

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Tim-
Try an Aloe Vera based lip balm, but be careful for petroleum based products- they clog pores.
Tina LVN

Does any one know any thing about chelation therapy? I have a client with diabetic and arterial ulcers on her left foot and is undergoing this chelation therapy to help with her circulation. Does if work?

J. White

Chelation is used to remove heavy metals, such as mercury and lead, from your system. I've never heard of it increasing circulation. Of course, there are some who claim it works for most health problems, but
those claims are unfounded.
Renee C, MSPT, MPH, CWS

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As you may already know,chelation therapy was used early on as a way to remove heavy metals from the body.Its uses and or effectiveness for the myriad of ailments some practioners use and "sell it" for are conterversial@best...Your best bet is to do medical research publication search available in many forms on the internet!

Johnny

To Whom This May Concern,
Would you know where I may obtain brochures that might be available for marketing to physicians regarding electrical stimulation for the Rx of stasis ulcers? I would like to promote this level of intervention with the physicians in this area.
Thank you so much for your early response.
Patricia R. Hoover, PT
Patricia:

Look for literature in the physician's language. That means that success is most likely if you find peer-reviewed articles in Medline that support electrical stimulation for the healing of ulcers, and share them with the physicians. Don't, as one of our physician residents did, share articles from "Good Housekeeping." Naturally, I like Good Housekeeping and "Advance for Physical Therapists" as much as the next guy, but physicians generally give more weight to peer-reviewed articles than to brochures and non-peer-reviewed articles.

--Bryan Gibby, MSPT, CWS
Me and a group of colleagues from the University of Newcastle Australia have been asked to develop a new novel product (hypothetically) for one of our subjects. the idea of maggots and wound healing came into play. we were thinking of improving them in some way, perhaps genetic engineering. perhaps engineer them to secrete antibiotics or EGF or something like that. but it seems they are quite good at what the do already and we are running out of ideas on how to improve them. so my question is what could these medical maggots do to help wound healing??

thanx for your time,
luc
I have used these little critters (because of their image I hesitate to say their name) for cleaning deep wounds and found them very effective. They were easy to remove by flushing after their job was done. The problem lies with the reputation and image that most people have which usually prevents their use. I would suggest the education of the public as to the benefits that can be accomplished and changing the image attached to maggots would be an asset to anyone considering, or not considering, treating a wound.
SLW
I am a physical therapist who is just being trained in e-stim and ultrasound for wound care in skilled nursing facility/ nursing home settings. Would it be contraindicated to use e-stim to full thickness decubitus (lat malleolus) on a patient with newly documented VRE (due to wound) and even more recent consult with vascular surgeon resulting in newly named diagnosis "gangraneous left leg" with plans for surgical procedure for debridement and skin graft immediately following femoral endartectomy with balloon angioplasty? I know that's a big question and I think the answer would be yes, it would be contraindicated at this point, but I don't want this patient to be short-changed if this could be beneficial to him at this point. Any black and white answer?

Thanks for taking the time to consider the question. I love your website!

Sincerely,

Lucy Schlesinger, PT
E-stim is not contraindicated for infected wounds, as a matter of fact it can be helpful. But in this case it sounds like the patient has extensive necrotic tissue in the wound bed if the surgeon is considering debridement and e-stim is much more effective in wounds that have minimal necrotic tissue. So although e-stim is not contraindicated, but I would recommend debridement before initiating any e-stim.

Bill Richlen PT, WCC
 

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I saw nothing in your description that would contraindicate ES. It's an antimicrobial, stimulates the body to fight infection and autolytically
debrides tissue, and increase granulation tissue formation. Additionally, there were two studies published last year that demonstrated an increase in tissue perfusion in ischemic legs. However, with that surgical plan in place (I assume in the very near
future), there is not much need at this point. A plan at this point could probably include dressings, such as an antimicrobial or enzymatic debrider, in addition to a med like Plavix to aid in arterial
circulation.
Renee C., MSPT, MPH, CWS

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Lucy-
I agree with you, e-stim isn't appropriate right now, you don't want to share the wounds problems with the rest of the body. Look into Hydrofera Blue- I am a "believe it when I see it" person and had a obese diabetic with PVD and multiple known DVTs Stg 4 on the bottom off her foot (VRE positive), healed in one month after sharp debridement.
The Hydrofera Blue you change every 3-5 days, the trick is you have to hydrate it everyday (just a little NS squirt) or it will dehydrate your wound and stick to the wound bed worse then Duoderm on a dry area.
Tina LVN

Does anyone have any info re: teaching patients to make their own saline?
Thanks,
Debbie Ward, RN
Flint ,MI
Hi Debbie
We have a video called "Taking Care of Your Wound", designed to teach professionals, clients, family and friends how to safely look after wounds at home.
Included in the video is the recipe for making your own saline. If you are interested you can check out our web page www.thinairproductions.ca
All the info you need to contact us is on the site. Cheers.
Chris.

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Boil 4 cups of tap water for 5 minutes and add 2 tsps of table salt. Boil until salt is dissolved and pour into a container that has been rinsed with boiling water. I believe this can be kept for a week, but I’d put it in the refrigerator. No evidence for or against that.

Laurie M. Rappl, PT, CWS

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We routinely advise our home care clients that preparing their own normal saline for wound care is easy and much cheaper than purchasing commercially prepared saline. We only allow home prepared NS for wounds being treated with Medical Asepsis (or "clean no-touch technique"). We have a typed instruction sheet that advises the following steps...
1.Place clean jar and screw cap in a saucepan
2.Cover with water. Cover saucepan with lid and bring water to a full boil.Boil for 20 minutes.
3.In second saucepan, add water and table salt (at ratio of 1 tsp of salt for every 2 cups (pint) of water) and boil for 10 minutes.
4.Remove jar and cap from pot without contaminating inner surfaces (like when canning).
5.Pour sterilized saline mixture from second saucepan into jar and screw top on tightly
6.Label jars indicating the contents and date of sterilization.
Jars may be placed in fridge and will keep for weeks if not opened. Once opened, jar should not be refrigerated and should be replaced qwk.
KR RNBN

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Dear Debbie,

Normal Saline is just 1.5 teaspoons (7.5 cc) salt to 1 liter of water. I find a tight sealing glass jar with a lid that has a rubber ring around the rim. Jelly jars work well as do small baby formula bottles. May use any
canning jar. Fill the jar with tap water and microwave it on high just until it starts to boil. Then I microwave it on low or defrost to keep it at boiling point but not necessarily boiling for another 3-5 minutes. To this
sterile water I add the appropriate amount of salt and immediately screw lid on, tightly sealing as if you were canning jelly or whatever. The saline can
be allowed to cool and remains virtually sterile until you pop the seal and open it.

To figure the amount of salt to use, take the ml of water it will be mixed in divided by 1000. That answer times 7.5 cc will give you the cc of salt to
use.

If patient has no microwave the jar(s) can be simmered in water on the stove top. I suggest putting a small towel or some barrier under jars so they
don't crack from direct heat.

Hope this is helpful.

D. Farlin RN

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Debbie,
To prepare saline solution at home, you can use 1 litre of water to a boil and allow it to boil for 5 minutes. You should then add 2 teaspoons of table salt and stir it until the salt is completely dissolved. The solution can be stored for up to 1 week, at room temperture, in a tightly covered glass or plastic container.
Flora, RN, ET, BN, Msc

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1 quart (4 cups) distilled water or boil 1 quart (4cups) tap water for 5 minutes. Do not use well water or sea water.

Add 2 teaspoons of table salt to the distilled or boiled water. NOTE: for a smaller amount use 1 teaspoon salt to 2 cups boiled water.

Be sure your storage container and mixing utensil are clean (boiled for 5 minutes). Mix the solution well until the salt is completely dissolved.

Cool to room temperature before using. This solution can be stored at room temperature in a tightly covered glass or plastic bottle for up to 1 week.

Becky, PT

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I believe you can find it in the AHCPR Guidelines "Treating Pressure Ulcers."
However, spray cans of Wound Wash Saline are available in the drug stores in the first aid section. Not all drug stores carry it though.

Nancy B., RN, CWCN

If and individual has skin breakdown from rubbing his leg on the bed, would this be a pressure ulcer.
Nancy
No, traumatic or traumirritative.

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Not technically. However, friction and shear are sometimes called stage II pressure ulcers. Personally, I would call this a traumatic
wound, and label as full or partial thickness.

Renee C, MSPT, MPH, CWS

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Yes, from friction. Becky, PT

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Nancy,
No, it's shearing, rug burn. If it is a constant issue or you are having trouble treating the area try unnaboots wrapped in coban changed every 2-3 days until closed then thigh high TEDs or JOBST for protection.
Tina LVN

I am looking for reimbursement codes for the use of platelet rich plasma in wound treatment. Please let me know if you have any suggestions.

Fade

sorry, no replies to this question.

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