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I regulate boddy Art businesses. there is an
ongoing debate as to the best practice for covering the tattoo just after it
has been applied. Most of my shops suggest that the bandage be left on the
tatto for 1-4 hours and then gently clean and reapply 4x's a day an ointmnet
like A&D. I have a contingency that likes to use plastic food wrap to
initially cover the wound. We have regulators that suggest that creates an
anerobic environment tha tis bad and that the wound should be covered with
gauze and tape.
Is there research, articles, text, web sites that will help support the best
practice. I have read the commnets on wet wound care from your web site and
I feel that the plastic wrap may best support that.
thanks for your assitance
Karl E. Schiemann
Senior Public Health Inspector |
Try
the web site www.worldwidewounds or the wound
research unit at Cardiff university UK
Janine Michaelides SRN ONC DIP.HE(Wound Care)
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In my opinion, either practice would be
acceptable. They both create a seal which promotes moist wound healing and
decreases the formation of scar
tissue.
LPN wound nurse. |
I am a certified coder. I have a wound center
that I am responsible for as far as auditing charts and documentation. I
also have HBO (hyperbaric oxygen therapy), I am looking for a conference on
documentation guidelines for both things listed above. Do you have anything
like this?
Thanks
Tammy
TCassel@PINNACLEHEALTH.org |
Kathy
Schaum gives excellent presentations at the major wound conferences. Look at
www.woundcaresymposium.com (next May), and
www.symposiumonwoundcare.com (which is in a couple weeks in Phoenix).
I have not seen any courses specifically on wound care coding. Usually it's
a wound conference with a section on coding or a coding seminar for a
specific profession (physicians, nurses, PTs) with little on
wounds themselves.
Renee C, MSPT, MPH, CWS |
Hi,
I would like some feedback on how best to treat nonhealing venous stasis
ulcers with large amounts of serous drainage. Originally, the patient was d/c'd
from the hospital with accuzyme to these wounds daily. The tissue is pink on
all ulcerated areas, therefore I think that accuzyme is not the appropriate
therapy. I just started to use silver aquacel to the problematic ulcers this
week. This patient really is a candidate for a wound vac, but the medical
system is nonyielding at this time. Any and all suggestions would be helpful
!!!!!!
Nina Winston, MSN, OCN |
Is
compression in the treatment plan? Once the arterial system is cleared, then
compression is crucial to healing venous ulcers. It gets to the cause of the
ulcer. Once it's healed, ongoing compression is
still necessary to prevent recurrence.
Renee C., MSPT, MPH, CWS---
Try Iodosorb ointment for heavy exudating
wound. Check ABI index, then consider light compression with elevation.
unsigned
---
Hello,
You are right in stopping the accuzyme if the wounds are clean. For a venous
insufficiency ulcer, compression is a gold standard for healing, as long as
there is not arterial insufficiency that causes the ABI (ankle/brachial
index) to be less than .8 (some people will say you can go as low as .6).
Compression can be accomplished by unna's boots, or layer bandaging systems
like Profore. I have used silver alginates to the wound beds under these
dressings if I feel there could be some troublesome bacterial colonization.
These bandages can go as long as a week between changes if appropriate (not
saturating the dressing). Encourage the patient to walk, but not to stand or
sit with feet down. With the compression bandages, walking actually enhances
the calf pump mechanism.
Vicki, MSPT, CWS
---
hi I am a Rehab Nurse Coordinator dealing
with wound and skin care on a daily basi....Pleeeease try Ferris Polymem, or
Convatec Lyofoam...Its great for venous wounds with heavy drainage and is
very user friendly. With the polymem make sure wound is not irrigated or any
solution used during wound treatment, folloow directions to the "T". Please
do a complete assessment ruling out pyoderma or cellulitis (culture wound if
possible first).....good luck
---
If the patient has had an Ankle Brachial
Pressure
Index done to exclude any aretrial disease then the
gold standard treatment for venous leg ulcers is
compression bandaging with a wound care product that is able to handle large
amounts of exudate such as a foam dressing.It is the bandaging which heals
the wound by increasing the efficiency of the calf muscle pump to return
blood to the heart.
I would also suggest that if there is odour, redness
or inflammation of the surrounding skin associated
with the exudate then you should do a routine wound
swab.You also need to exclude any other factors
associted with delayed wound healing such as diabetes anaemia and
malnutrition.
I had a patient with a venous leg ulcer of 30 years
standing and the wound took 2 years to heal so
persever.
Janine Michaelides SRN ONC DIP.HE(Wound Care).
-----
compression therapy is the gold standard for
venous ulcers, check for active CHF or ESRD. Charles Rossetti,LPTA
---
Hello Nina.
We need to look at the etiology of the wound and
any barriers to healing such as infection, presence of
necrotic tissue, nutrition, edema, conditions as diabetes and hypertension.
If these are venous stasis ulcers, they will not usually heal until you
provide some compression due to the deficient valves.
There is tissue congestion which will interfere with healing. Accuzyme
should be discontinued if there is no necrotic tissue to debride and if
there is minimal amount (like minimal patchy areas of
slough), it may be better to use other dressings instead. Unna boot
dressings combine medication, and compression (although not graded
compression). My experience with it, I got good results if applied properly.
It worked to lift off slough as well. The other option is to use compression
with graded pressure as hose to be worn or a lympedema pump.
I'd suggest the patient gets a vascular study done first as you want to be
sure that a patient does not have
arterial insufficiency as well. For those with arterial insufficiency, you
want to limit compression pressure or not even use compression at all. If
the patient is diabetic, you need to watch too as you could get a good ABI
for instance, but only because you have arteries that are calcified so you
still have the arterial insufficiency. In this case, compression bandages
with Profore for instance (compression with less pressure) may be more
appropriate.
If studies show venous insufficiency only, you can try Unna boot, applied in
the morning before the patient has had legs in dependent position (to change
q 3-7 days depending on amount of drainage), and place on an ambulation
program. Also encourage the habit of performing ankle pumps frequently in
the day, elevating the legs whenever he is not ambulating.
If with a lot of drainage, you may even want to try calcium alginate
dressings first for maybe a week or so until the drainage is much less that
you can switch to the Unna boot within a week. If you do try the Alginate
dressings and a secondary dressing, make sure these together are not bulky
and
definitely use compression hose 16-18 mmHg pressure (again if there are no
arterial insufficiency). And again, place on ambulation program.
The only contraindication to progressive ambulation
is if your patient should show moderate to severe arterial insuffiency.
The ambulation and exercise will be good for a patient who is diabetic and
with venous insufficiency problem only (no arterial problems) because the
exercise should help with glycemic control.
Consult a PT for the exercises and ambulation.
Usually, venous ulcers will heal with compression. There are modalities to
try for chronic wounds but as a rule, compression is tried first.
(Contraindications to compression is arterial insufficiency, CHF, unchecked
infection).
Check meds too. Any factors as use of steroids? protein deficiency (can
result from undernourishment and also from heavily draining wounds),
hypertension.
Hope these help.
Maria Carunungan, DPT, CWS |
Dear Sir/ Madam.
Where can I find information about research and trials on the subject of
pressure sore prevention?
Yours
Dr. Ehoud Har-Shemesh
family physician Israel |
Contact the European Pressure Ulcer Advisory Panel
they have a web site.
Janine Michaelides SRN ONC DIP.HE(Wound Care)
---
I'm not sure if you're looking for current
trials in progress, or about published studies. The major journals are
Ostomy/Wound Management,
Wounds, Advances in Skin and Wound Care, The Journal of the Wound, Ostomy,
and Continence Nurses Association, and Wound Repair and
Regeneration. Also check out the Cochrane Library www.cochrane.org has
reviews of the literature. You can access Medline on-line to get abstracts
at www.PubMed.gov, and you can order articles through that service as well.
Renee C, MSPT, MPH, CWS |
Good Morning Sir:
What is your opinion regarding the use of Tissue Adhesive materials in the
closure of wounds in general, & for facial wounds in specific. With great
thanks...
Dr. Mustafa Alaany
Rashid Hospital,
Dubai,UAE.
Emergency Department.
Mustafa Al'aany |
Hello,
I have had some personal experience with this. My daughter fell on the
playground and split her chin about 2 cm long and to the bone, splaying
about 2 mm. The ER doctor applied the adhesive instead of sutures, which is
what I felt was appropriate also. However, my daughter, 5 years old, picked
the adhesive off during the night that very night. I steri-stripped it the
next day, and it healed well with a minimal scar. So we had a $100 trip to
the ER for nothing. My point I guess is that it maybe should not be used on
anyone who cannot be trusted to keep in dry and intact. I have had patients
who have demonstrated very good results from it.
Vicki, MSPT, CWS |
|
I am a nurse working in long term care and see
quite a bit of venous stasis ulcers. I am wondering what treatments are used
to treat the dermatits associated with theses ulcers? thankyou, LM 1 |
Hi I
also work in Long Term Care, Rehab Nurse Coordinator (wound Care too)....try
Convatec Aloe vesta ....or Dermamed or Dermagran ointment(look up on net),
but you can change the dressing to polymem or lyofoam...( the dermatitis may
also come from a fungus, so you could apply lotrimin to the surrounding skin
for 3 days to see if you get results---fungus comes from moisture).good luck
unsigned
---
You dont mention what treatment these
patients are
recieving. If they are wearing a compression bandage
they could be allergic to the bandage material. If the
ulcer is exuding then its probably this that is
causing dermatitis and you need to find a dressing
which will keep the exudate away from healthy skin
such as Mepitel by Molyncke.
Janine Michaelides SRN ONC DIP.HE(Wound Care)
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When would you implement sterile technique in
dressing a stage iv pressure ulcer?, vs. just doing clean technique.
thankyou, LM2 |
Clinical Practice Guidelines recommend the need for only clean, not sterile,
technique for dressing all pressure ulcers.....wounds are very dirty and you
need to protect yourself from contamination rather than protecting the wound
and you need to guard against cross contamination - just good infection
control practices.....you would always, of course, would use sterile
instruments for any debridement procedures....but dressing changes need only
be clean technique. MAO, PT ---
Hello,
The 3 institutions I am familiar with have a protocol of sterile technique
to be used in the first 24 hours following a surgical procedure, such as a
surgical debridement of an ulcer, or when sharp debridement is being
performed by the therapist, then back to clean technique.
Vicki, MSPT, CWS
---
I would do sterile technique if they are
severely immunocompromised,
such as post-transplant for AIDS. All chronic wounds are contaminated,
so clean is usually sufficient. You can look at the Pressure Ulcer
Treatment Guidelines available on-line.
Renee C, MSPT, MPH, CWS |
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